Talk:Collective Shout

Relevancy to CRW

I would argue that the article is relevant here due to the activist group having a history of attempting to or preemptively blocking customers' ability to otherwise engage in lawful transactions because CS finds something offensive. The ability to obtain something ought to be taken into consideration, even though it might not be nearly as important to the focus of this wiki as having said thing and then having it altered in an anti-consumer manner. — Sojourna (talk) 05:38, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Agreed, their tantrums towards payment processors should be evidence enough to say that their actions are harming consumers. Their actions have been responsible for developers on itch.io and Steam to not get paid in general JamesTDG (talk) 07:06, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

I will agree with Sojourna and James as well. I will give @DzLamme one week to respond to this talk page for his side. If no response is given, the deletion notice will be removed. Mr Pollo (talk) 00:51, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

I have read that some NSFW games got de-indexed due to lobbying and pressure on payment processors. I'm not for censorship, in general. I don't agree with many of the stances the group takes, however their intentions were framed as though they are just an anti-consumer group. The article gave the following reason for the groups actions in 2014:

the video game encouraged players to "murder women for entertainment."

The article came across hostile, like calling their lobbying, tantrums, while leaving out any responsibility Itch has towards its customers and indie developers.

I was unable to find a history of anti-consumer rights, I am not in Australia and have not done a deep dive on them so I may be ignorant of some things. DzLD (talk) 06:50, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Well their entire purpose is to censor anything they don't like, which would severely restrict the consumer's ability to purchase legal things, so I would say that their goals are quite anti-consumer. Lowspeedguy (talk) 14:07, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Not to mention, they want to ensure that these games that they are protesting against, are not distributed at all, meaning it also hurts consumers who have paid for these games as well. Just imagine paying for some mature title, only to have it be revoked from your library, because some Karen in Australia got upset over the wrong things JamesTDG (talk) 14:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)