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::::I think the way in which the terms of many services unreasonably opt you into AI training off your private data without properly, where it is framed as an anti-consumer contract term, is reasonable for inclusion. I'm less sure about the blatant grabbing of works visible in the public space, as this doesn't feel like as much of a consumer issue. | ::::I think the way in which the terms of many services unreasonably opt you into AI training off your private data without properly, where it is framed as an anti-consumer contract term, is reasonable for inclusion. I'm less sure about the blatant grabbing of works visible in the public space, as this doesn't feel like as much of a consumer issue. | ||
::::In a similar way, if there was a spate of phone repair companies using bullshit terms to refuse to return phones sent in for repair, that would fit the wiki, but if an organized crime gang was running a phone theft ring across a country, that would not fit the wiki. Both are stealing your phone, but the way in which it is being done is relevant as to whether it should be included in the Wiki. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 13:31, 16 September 2025 (UTC) | ::::In a similar way, if there was a spate of phone repair companies using bullshit terms to refuse to return phones sent in for repair, that would fit the wiki, but if an organized crime gang was running a phone theft ring across a country, that would not fit the wiki. Both are stealing your phone, but the way in which it is being done is relevant as to whether it should be included in the Wiki. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 13:31, 16 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::::without properly informing the user or giving them a choice* [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 14:32, 16 September 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::On second thought, after re-reading this article in more detail, it seems like the only argument being made here is about unethical web scraping, which has no direct harm on consumers. Like you said, there are specific ways in which AI/LLM can be inherently anti-consumer, but that leans more toward specific incidents and company practice. | :::On second thought, after re-reading this article in more detail, it seems like the only argument being made here is about unethical web scraping, which has no direct harm on consumers. Like you said, there are specific ways in which AI/LLM can be inherently anti-consumer, but that leans more toward specific incidents and company practice. | ||
:::In summation, I do not think this article can be salvaged, and I think it should be deleted. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 14:23, 16 September 2025 (UTC) | :::In summation, I do not think this article can be salvaged, and I think it should be deleted. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 14:23, 16 September 2025 (UTC) | ||