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::Citizens and consumers is not a blurry line. We just happen to be victims of both private companies and our very own government. That's the only thing they have in common. You can best believe that every federal government agency and contractor in the US has purchased illegally obtained consumer data at some point. | ::Citizens and consumers is not a blurry line. We just happen to be victims of both private companies and our very own government. That's the only thing they have in common. You can best believe that every federal government agency and contractor in the US has purchased illegally obtained consumer data at some point. | ||
::This article is scope creep. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 14:58, 12 October 2025 (UTC) | ::This article is scope creep. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 14:58, 12 October 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::honestly I'm ok with the page as it is but would be very wary of adding anything further, although it would need to be shown that the purchase of privately collected data was *lucrative enough to encourage the growth of the industry*. | |||
:::@[[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] do you know of any properly documented incidents when the NSA has actively interfered with consumer products? If, like the UK govt, they've been openly asking for backdoors into encrypted things and so on, I think that has a direct enough effect on the products consumers buy. | |||
:::A bit like how the UK's online safety act requires companies to operate in a way that is an absolute nightmare for the data safety and privacy of UK consumers when they interact with a range of services (and we're happy to have a page on that), I think the NSA can have a page if and when they do things directly harmful to the conusmer. | |||
:::I wouldn't count their direct intelligence collection in this, as that's just what they do, and to my knowledge they're not selling any of that. Whether they should be doing that or not is a civil rights issue. If they'd stepped in a few years back and said 'no, you're not allowed to use https://!, That would have had a major effect on consumers and would have been a consumer rights issue. | |||
:::Right now, I think the page is at the appropriate level of detail. Any addition to this page would probably be overkill unless it directly made reference to consumer things. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:24, 12 October 2025 (UTC) | |||