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|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.
|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.
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}}Products usually referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com</ref>, but "residential security containers" (Standard UL 1037).<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151029154039/http://ulstandards.ul.com/standard/?id=1037</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.
{{Ph-I-Int}}Products usually referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes, but "residential security containers".<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.


==Background==
==Background==
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{{Ph-I-B}}Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels):  UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.
 
Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class<ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/</ref>. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.<ref>https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s</ref>)
 
The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.


==[Incident]==
==[Incident]==
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ToDo:
ToDo:


* Embed side-by-side snapshots? (snapshot the fire-rating of a product from the company's website, next to a picture of that safe with rusted-out guns inside from surviving a fire)  
*Embed side-by-side snapshots? (snapshot the fire-rating of a product from the company's website, next to a picture of that safe with rusted-out guns inside from surviving a fire)
* Link to the Liberty Safe article on consumerrights.wiki
*Link to the Liberty Safe article on consumerrights.wiki
* Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?
*Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?
 
== Further Reading ==
The original author of this article recommends this web-guide for tips on gun safes including theft protection, fire protection, information security, home hardening, and common myths.
 
* ([https://gunsafereviewsguy.com Honest Gun Safe Reviews])
 
 
Videos of people breaking into safes:
 
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmnG9R9S_k
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI
 
 
Related consumerrights.wiki articles:


* [[Liberty Safe]]
* [[Ring]]


==References==
==References==
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Revision as of 18:20, 6 February 2026

Products usually referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes[1], but "residential security containers" (Standard UL 1037).[2][3][4] The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.[5] This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.

Background

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Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels): UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.

Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class[6]. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.[7][8])

The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.

[Incident]

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Incidents to expand on:

  • Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)
  • Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage)[9]
  • Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)
  • Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)
  • Deceptive gun # capacity
  • Detrimental or poor features presented as positives (door handle location, gauge thickness) [10]
  • Containers with security so poor that it cannot withstand a theft attack from a child (amazon desk safes)[11]

ToDo:

  • Embed side-by-side snapshots? (snapshot the fire-rating of a product from the company's website, next to a picture of that safe with rusted-out guns inside from surviving a fire)
  • Link to the Liberty Safe article on consumerrights.wiki
  • Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?

Further Reading

The original author of this article recommends this web-guide for tips on gun safes including theft protection, fire protection, information security, home hardening, and common myths.


Videos of people breaking into safes:


Related consumerrights.wiki articles:

References

  1. ↑ https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com
  2. ↑ https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings
  3. ↑ https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/
  4. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20151029154039/http://ulstandards.ul.com/standard/?id=1037
  5. ↑ https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification
  6. ↑ https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/
  7. ↑ https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195
  8. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s
  9. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg
  10. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI
  11. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE

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