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:I see AI more as a theme/background article. AI is so pervasive now, and affects people in so many ways, that I think it makes sense to have at least one article on it. | :I see AI more as a theme/background article. AI is so pervasive now, and affects people in so many ways, that I think it makes sense to have at least one article on it. | ||
:Things that I think such an article should cover include: | :Things that I think such an article should cover include: | ||
:* Data centers - environmental impacts, community impacts, energy demand and subsidy by electricity and water rate payers, and how many of these agreements are made in secret, even in nominally democratic/open governmental systems. In the US data centers are often located in marginalized communities, where people are not as organized to protect their community . (This is not exclusively an AI thing might be worth a separate article about data centers in general, covering crypto mining operations, etc.) | :*Data centers - environmental impacts, community impacts, energy demand and subsidy by electricity and water rate payers, and how many of these agreements are made in secret, even in nominally democratic/open governmental systems. In the US data centers are often located in marginalized communities, where people are not as organized to protect their community . (This is not exclusively an AI thing might be worth a separate article about data centers in general, covering crypto mining operations, etc.) | ||
:* Inaccuracy and inappropriate use of LLM. "Hallucinations" People not understanding what an LLM is and assuming they are more capable than they are. LLM make a poor substitute for human written product reviews. (Inaccurate, praises whatever the user wants - even products that don't exist.) | :*Inaccuracy and inappropriate use of LLM. "Hallucinations" People not understanding what an LLM is and assuming they are more capable than they are. LLM make a poor substitute for human written product reviews. (Inaccurate, praises whatever the user wants - even products that don't exist.) | ||
:* Control of information - Use of LLM in place of search is decimating independent information sources (taking away advertising revenue, taking away views). | :*Control of information - Use of LLM in place of search is decimating independent information sources (taking away advertising revenue, taking away views). | ||
:* Intellectual property - piracy in training data (using stolen data), use of output. | :*Intellectual property - piracy in training data (using stolen data), use of output. | ||
:* Privacy and security - data poisoning, ease of subverting guardrails, gathering data for training, revealing prompts, law enforcement review of chatbot prompts and outputs, etc. | :*Privacy and security - data poisoning, ease of subverting guardrails, gathering data for training, revealing prompts, law enforcement review of chatbot prompts and outputs, etc. | ||
:* Concerns about possible effects on users - AI psychosis, etc. | :*Concerns about possible effects on users - AI psychosis, etc. | ||
:* Labor concerns - conditions of labelers/piece workers. | :*Labor concerns - conditions of labelers/piece workers. | ||
:* Liability - LLM are often inaccurate, what happens when the AI harms people (libel, suicide, etc.) | :*Liability - LLM are often inaccurate, what happens when the AI harms people (libel, suicide, etc.) | ||
:I have sources for a bunch of this, will be adding them to the article talk page as time permits. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:27, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | :I have sources for a bunch of this, will be adding them to the article talk page as time permits. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:27, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
::You're completely right. My mistake. This article does need significant reworking to maintain relevance, and a lot of the technical details should be simplified to maintain the wiki's voice and tone. But it's pretty relevant overall, so with time, it could fit better. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 19:02, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Appeal posted re proposed deletion == | ==Appeal posted re proposed deletion== | ||
I posted an appeal request regarding article deletion. Things I would like to see in this article are listed under scope. I think easier to edit existing article than start new one. | I posted an appeal request regarding article deletion. Things I would like to see in this article are listed under scope. I think easier to edit existing article than start new one. | ||
If you have an opinion one-way or the other, please add on to the appeal discussion on the moderator page (wouldn't want multiple appeals). Thanks. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | If you have an opinion one-way or the other, please add on to the appeal discussion on the moderator page (wouldn't want multiple appeals). Thanks. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC) | ||