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::I don't understand why this behavior would be desired.  To me it seems like a bug, where the abuse filter is protecting more than it should.
::I don't understand why this behavior would be desired.  To me it seems like a bug, where the abuse filter is protecting more than it should.
::Regardless, how can we improve the lead paragraph when we can not change it?
::Regardless, how can we improve the lead paragraph when we can not change it?
::* Are we supposed to duplicate the immutable first paragraph, putting any revisions/improvements in a secondary copy of the first paragraph?  Is there a standard template or way to document what is going on so it doesn't confuse readers when they see two first paragraphs?
::*Are we supposed to duplicate the immutable first paragraph, putting any revisions/improvements in a secondary copy of the first paragraph?  Is there a standard template or way to document what is going on so it doesn't confuse readers when they see two first paragraphs?
::* Do we need to propose edits to the first paragraph in some form on the talk page, then request an administrator to come and actually make the change?  (If so, how/where do we make the request?)
::*Do we need to propose edits to the first paragraph in some form on the talk page, then request an administrator to come and actually make the change?  (If so, how/where do we make the request?)
::* Are we expected to just ignore problems in the first paragraph, and revise the rest of it until the stub can be removed?
::*Are we expected to just ignore problems in the first paragraph, and revise the rest of it until the stub can be removed?
::Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 01:37, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 01:37, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::I wonder if this edit, where an administrator used the visual editor to delete a deletion tag after the stubnotice  might be part of the problem.  Prior to that edit, the stubnotice was on its own line.  After that edit, the stubnotice is on the same line as the first paragraph.
::https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Shortage_of_medical_ventilators_during_the_COVID_pandemic&diff=prev&oldid=25186
::If the abuse filter intentionally protects everything on the stubnotice line, then the problem may be in the visual editor, which should ensure that it preserves the newline at the end of a protected line.  (At the very least, it should warn an administrator when they are suddenly protecting a bunch of text that wasn't protected before.)  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 02:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)