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==Itron article has been flagged for questionable relevance.== | |||
I believe the [[Itron]] article has been mistakenly flagged for questionable relevance. I have added several Incidents to the page to further show Itron's systemic patterns of consumer privacy violations please see the below: | |||
''Itron's Smart meters allow them to collect, process, and store data without the end users' knowledge. (1980-Present)'' | |||
''NYSEG requires customers to switch to Itron Smart meters or face monthly charge (November 2022-Present)'' | |||
''CenterPoint Energy requires customers to switch to Itron Smart meters or face one-time and monthly service charges (Unknown-Present)'' | |||
''Southern California Edison requires customers to switch to Itron Smart meters or face monthly charge (Unknown-Present)'' | |||
Smart meter (and smart grid solutions) usage by utility companies involves a lot of layers but these are what I find to be most concerning: | |||
''Lack of data privacy, utility companies can freely share customer data with third party smart meter companies (such as Itron) without customer knowledge.'' | |||
''Lack of freedom to choose whether or not you have a smart meter recording your electricity usage. This data can be used to infer all sorts of things from what kind of appliances you own to when you are home.'' | |||
''Itron's Data Processing Agreement is un-viewable (at least for me) and not easy to find either, and end users typically do not know they will have an Itron smart meter until after it is installed by their electric company.'' | |||
Itron is not the only smart meter and smart grid solutions game in town but they are big and not end user friendly,. | |||
Thank Mods! [[User:Privacywarrior|Privacywarrior]] ([[User talk:Privacywarrior|talk]]) 19:11, 28 September 2025 (UTC) | |||
:So sorry for not getting to this sooner. | |||
:For now, I've changed the relevancy tag to an incomplete one (lacking verification), the issue being that there are no sources that actually implicate itron in having done anything wrong, with most of the stuff surrounding 'maybe it could be/has been hacked' being authorial speculation insofar as I can tell. | |||
:There's also no secondary reporting - i.e. no media sources cited as framing any of these things as a problem. This is something which should be there to demonstrate notability. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 09:54, 18 October 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Understood, unfortunately most of the articles I found the place blame on the distribution companies for invasive policies. The real issue is Itron has unlimited access to any of their smart meters data with out the end users knowledge. I am not quite sure how to capture this topic fully. [[User:Privacywarrior|Privacywarrior]] ([[User talk:Privacywarrior|talk]]) 14:40, 2 November 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::@[[User:Privacywarrior|Privacywarrior]] Not mad at you or anything but on Wikipedia at least its common practice to not edit the archive at all although I see why you did it, so I’ve reverted your edit there and added it back here. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 14:57, 2 November 2025 (UTC) | |||
==In the verifiability section, aren't government policies, regulations with propagandas/agendas allowed to be cited there?== | ==In the verifiability section, aren't government policies, regulations with propagandas/agendas allowed to be cited there?== | ||