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Note that you might not need a ''real'' Android device: you can install [[wikipedia:Waydroid|Waydroid]] on a regular distro.

== Choosing a DE ==

==Choosing a DE==

There are 2 major options:

* If you like non-[[wikt:clutter|cluttered]] [[wikipedia:User_interface|UIs]], choose [[wikipedia:GNOME|GNOME]]

*If you like non-[[wikt:clutter|cluttered]] [[wikipedia:User_interface|UIs]], choose [[wikipedia:GNOME|GNOME]]

* If you like [[wikt:versatile|versatility]] and [[wikipedia:Ergonomics|ergonomics]], choose [[wikipedia:KDE_Plasma|KDE Plasma]]

*If you like [[wikt:versatile|versatility]] and [[wikipedia:Ergonomics|ergonomics]], choose [[wikipedia:KDE_Plasma|KDE Plasma]]

Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:

* [[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint

*[[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint

* There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}

*There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}

== Choosing a shell ==

==Choosing a shell==

<blockquote>Um acshually 🤓, "[[wikipedia:Shell_(computing)|shell]]" can refer to any kind of UI, not just text interfaces</blockquote>Yes, but for the purposes of this page, "shell" will refer to [[wikipedia:Read–eval–print_loop|REPL]] and [[wikipedia:Command-line_interface|CLI]] programs.

Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>

I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh, simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;)

I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh, simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])

Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell|PowerShelly]]", lol.

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 Note that you might not need a ''real'' Android device: you can install [[wikipedia:Waydroid|Waydroid]] on a regular distro.
-== Choosing a DE ==
+==Choosing a DE==
 There are 2 major options:
-* If you like non-[[wikt:clutter|cluttered]] [[wikipedia:User_interface|UIs]], choose [[wikipedia:GNOME|GNOME]]
+*If you like non-[[wikt:clutter|cluttered]] [[wikipedia:User_interface|UIs]], choose [[wikipedia:GNOME|GNOME]]
-* If you like [[wikt:versatile|versatility]] and [[wikipedia:Ergonomics|ergonomics]], choose [[wikipedia:KDE_Plasma|KDE Plasma]]
+*If you like [[wikt:versatile|versatility]] and [[wikipedia:Ergonomics|ergonomics]], choose [[wikipedia:KDE_Plasma|KDE Plasma]]
 Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:
-* [[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint
+*[[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint
-* There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}
+*There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}
-== Choosing a shell ==
+==Choosing a shell==
 <blockquote>Um acshually 🤓, "[[wikipedia:Shell_(computing)|shell]]" can refer to any kind of UI, not just text interfaces</blockquote>Yes, but for the purposes of this page, "shell" will refer to [[wikipedia:Read–eval–print_loop|REPL]] and [[wikipedia:Command-line_interface|CLI]] programs.
 Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>
-I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh, simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;)
+I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh, simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])
 Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell|PowerShelly]]", lol.