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==Bad experience== | |||
I am not a bambu labs customer. I planned to be. But I spoke on their official facebook forum about a problem with a sunlu printer asking if anyone on there may know because the sunlu paths to help were fruitless. Immediately, people were crying that I had mentioned another printer brand and how that was irrelevant but I was pleading to the experts for a bit of help. Moments later, Bambu Lab staff banned me from the group. I binned the plan to become a customer right there. Some of the customer base and indeed the company, are toxic. Now I see this plan to own their customer base and I sure this is illegal with not logical reason - remember an airgapped network has only it's own security issues, one way traffic is a thing - except a poor excuse. Good luck in changing them. I dare say they will refuse all the way. | I am not a bambu labs customer. I planned to be. But I spoke on their official facebook forum about a problem with a sunlu printer asking if anyone on there may know because the sunlu paths to help were fruitless. Immediately, people were crying that I had mentioned another printer brand and how that was irrelevant but I was pleading to the experts for a bit of help. Moments later, Bambu Lab staff banned me from the group. I binned the plan to become a customer right there. Some of the customer base and indeed the company, are toxic. Now I see this plan to own their customer base and I sure this is illegal with not logical reason - remember an airgapped network has only it's own security issues, one way traffic is a thing - except a poor excuse. Good luck in changing them. I dare say they will refuse all the way. | ||
I am a year long anycubic customer and I feel vibes over there of ignorance and wonder what they plan on doing in the future.<small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' | I am a year long anycubic customer and I feel vibes over there of ignorance and wonder what they plan on doing in the future.<small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' {{Unsigned|81.78.58.48|18:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)}} | ||
==Bambu Lab press release== | |||
A few things that should be added to the article: | A few things that should be added to the article: | ||
* Bambu Lab published a press release from January 18, 2025 after all the heat they got from [https://blog.bambulab.com/firmware-update-introducing-new-authorization-control-system-2/ the initial blog post] https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11wl_DqAbSLPVMLZ_8jhlz4lGPLGFQPcp | * Bambu Lab published a press release from January 18, 2025 after all the heat they got from [https://blog.bambulab.com/firmware-update-introducing-new-authorization-control-system-2/ the initial blog post] https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11wl_DqAbSLPVMLZ_8jhlz4lGPLGFQPcp | ||
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Stratatsys may be this event https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/08/stratasys-sues-bambu-lab-over-patents-used-widely-by-consumer-3d-printers/ — [[User:Lomanic|Lomanic]] ([[User talk:Lomanic|talk]]) 20:56, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | Stratatsys may be this event https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/08/stratasys-sues-bambu-lab-over-patents-used-widely-by-consumer-3d-printers/ — [[User:Lomanic|Lomanic]] ([[User talk:Lomanic|talk]]) 20:56, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
==EU draft complaint letter== | |||
Not sure if its worth adding here but a draft complaint letter to the EU highlighting the consumer protection laws Bambu are likely violating has been posted here: https://old.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/1i5lp86/eu_bambulab_customers_let_your_reps_deal_with_this/ {{Unsigned|86.183.58.118|01:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
==RE: Citations== | |||
Some of the citations in here seem off, specifically with regard to the claims Bambu is making regarding the cyber attacks which prompted these changes. One article is about an attack on Anycubic printers exclusively , and the other is from 2018, several years before Bambu even released their first printer. I appreciate the desire to highlight bad business practices, but how is this relevant at all to Bambu? {{Unsigned|50.104.180.233|04:25, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
== RE: Citations == | |||
Some of the citations in here seem off, specifically with regard to the claims Bambu is making regarding the cyber attacks which prompted these changes. One article is about an attack on Anycubic printers exclusively , and the other is from 2018, several years before Bambu even released their first printer. I appreciate the desire to highlight bad business practices, but how is this relevant at all to Bambu? | |||
: These articles were the ones Bambu themselves have linked in their bog post as examples of attacks they aim to prevent with this update. [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 14:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | : These articles were the ones Bambu themselves have linked in their bog post as examples of attacks they aim to prevent with this update. [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 14:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
==January 20, 2025 statement== | |||
== January 20, 2025 statement == | |||
Bambu Lab's recent statement [1] as of January 20, 2025 seems like a half-hearted attempt to address the concerns of their customers, but it ultimately falls short in several key areas. The key issue remains that Bambu Lab wants to decide what use of the printer is "authorized" or which software/accessories are "legitimate". | Bambu Lab's recent statement [1] as of January 20, 2025 seems like a half-hearted attempt to address the concerns of their customers, but it ultimately falls short in several key areas. The key issue remains that Bambu Lab wants to decide what use of the printer is "authorized" or which software/accessories are "legitimate". | ||
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* Give a clear commitment that all features of their current and future devices can be controlled by third-party and open source software without the need for any kind of "agreements" or "partnerships" with Bambu Lab, and especially without any form of NDAs or payments | * Give a clear commitment that all features of their current and future devices can be controlled by third-party and open source software without the need for any kind of "agreements" or "partnerships" with Bambu Lab, and especially without any form of NDAs or payments | ||
* Allow the end user to perform firmware installations, including firmware downgrades and installing third-party firmware, without requiring the manufacturer's signatures or permissions | * Allow the end user to perform firmware installations, including firmware downgrades and installing third-party firmware, without requiring the manufacturer's signatures or permissions | ||
* Provide clear instructions on how to install third-party firmware on all components of the system | * Provide clear instructions on how to install third-party firmware on all components of the system {{Unsigned|2a02:908:1873:e920:78b9:1f19:9dbc:6ac7|09:47, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} | ||
==Possible hidden reasons== | |||
On the Discord there was mentioned that patent infringement litigation with Stratasys may be partially responsible for these changes. | On the Discord there was mentioned that patent infringement litigation with Stratasys may be partially responsible for these changes. | ||