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Sources to add, further reading, and "why"

Sources to add:

https://web.archive.org/web/20090520152257/http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1004378/why-nvidia-chips-defective

https://web.archive.org/web/20101004114517/http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1736698/nvidia-settles-bumpgate-class-action-lawsuit

https://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/08/21/nvidia-finally-understands-bumpgate/

^ All primary sources originally from Wikipedia's source page for "-gate Scandals"; just adding them for convenience for myself and anybody else who wants to contribute to the page.

Further research:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za7WTNwAX0c - Video from RIP Felix about the cause and misdiagnosis of the PS3's YLOD. It's a bit of a long watch, so the most significant bits are gonna be from about 27:56 to 39:43, 48:02, and 53:07. 56:20 discusses reballing, and I believe there's even a clip of one of Louis' videos in that part, but that might be getting too far out of the scope of this article's purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d6IMBS8oY - Chapter 5 of the Xbox documentary mentioned in RIP Felix's video; discusses Red Ring of Death.

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/research-experimental-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod.25260/ - PSX-Place thread for fixing PS3 Yellow Light of Death (YLOD), primarily by replacing NEC-Tokin capacitors, which many misdiagnosed as the defect with early "Phat" PS3s' for several years (when most of the time, it was Bumpgate-related). (Page 204 has RIP Felix's "catch-all" post that he links to in the description of his video.)

Why did you make this page?

1) I'm a bit of a console geek. :P

2) Though Bumpgate is "old news" (2006 old, to be specific), I think the responses of the companies involved (Nvidia, Sony, Microsoft, etc.) indicates a bit of a pattern not only in the companies themselves, but also in the video game console/tech industry. A trend that continues to this day. When these issues were first appearing, I recall that several of these companies were denying that there was even a defect, putting the responsibility on the consumer to fix their devices. It was a widespread enough issue that I think it's well worth having a full article for. - V (Vindicator4021) (talk) 19:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Couple of additional sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qKtS_uxdcU - Another (long) RIP Felix video, but on the Xbox 360. (yeah, the AI generated art in parts of it is a bit distracting- try to ignore it; the info is the important part)
"A systematic approach to qualification of 90 nm low K flip chip" - Amkor/IBM study mentioned in the above video. I don't know if this is free to access; I'll check it later to be sure.
Side note for anyone new to editing if they want to contribute: in regards to Felix's videos, remember he's usually not the primary source for the info he's stating in the video, and the best thing to link in the actual article is the primary source (e.g., don't reference Felix- reference the study that he referenced!). - V (Vindicator4021) (talk) 15:53, 2 June 2025 (UTC)Reply