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Open tasks

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In the verifiability section, aren't government policies, regulations with propagandas/agendas allowed to be cited there?

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I'm just wondering if this can cause concerns for staffs in this wiki, for example like this one (there's english translation but it's all google translated and for full texts translation it's locked behind paywall, so apologies for that) Justarandomguy111 (talk) 09:42, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Can you rephrase your question? I'm not sure exactly what you're asking or how the link you shared is relevant Beanie Bo (talk) 12:29, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

please delete all pages created by this user

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this user creates chatgpt raw output articles. While i dont doubt the relevance of the information, the method of creation is odd, and frankly, detrimental to this website's reputation. Plankton (talk) 20:56, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I’m not going to myself, but can one of the mods post a reminder to not do that? ChatGPT can be decent starting point if undetected and people keep updating it and it feels less sloppy, but this is out of hand. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 05:58, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, those ones are particularly bad. if they don't come back and clean them up by tomorrow I'll probably just delete them, as they're pretty much unusable as starting points Keith (talk) 09:46, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

So many pages with stub/incomplete notices

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Hey there, I've been messing around pressing the random article button for a while. I've noticed that about 9/10 articles on this wiki have either a stub notice or a incomplete notice. I understand why : this wiki has limited resources to polish these articles and also wish not to add friction for article creation not to deter potential contributors. However, in my opinion, it kinda ruins the image of the website. It looks unpolished, unfinished and amateur.

Is there some plan to eventually add a little friction to the system, to incentivize polishing and finishing articles. I understand this can be complicated, but right now articles are being created with a title and maybe two or three links and then left there to rot. Dont get me wrong, I am also guilty of this, though i wish i werent, and i wish there was a system preventing this kind of low-effort-good-faith contribution.


thank you for hearing me Plankton (talk) 22:27, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not a mod and this may be completely wrong (especially as I don’t use discord) but I think they just want to make articles for now and later polish them. The thing is that I’m pretty sure this is how Wikipedia developed, with just making articles and later on polishing. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 05:56, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
There will absolutely be a tightening of standards later down the line, but ultimately the reason it looks unfinished is because, at present, it *is* unfinished. There'll be a lot of work needed to get it to the point where the articles have the kind of average quality we'd want them to. At the moment we really can't afford to be picky with contributions, and have to embrace the 'something is better than nothing' mentality. Keith (talk) 09:45, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Can a mod please remove this?

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Can a mod remove the sloppyai tags on my userpage and my sandbox page? The abuse filter is making impossible to remove. Just delete the part that says SloppyAI which is in the first paragraph on both. Thanks! AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 07:01, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I don't see a SloppyAI notice Beanie Bo (talk) 12:25, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
You will see SloppyAI with two curly brackets around it, not the full notice. I forgot to clarify. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 12:44, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Do you mean where it says: "Apparently, adding template Template:Sloppyai is a crime." Beanie Bo (talk) 12:53, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 12:58, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Done {{Smiley}} Beanie Bo (talk) 13:03, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Well that didn't work Beanie Bo (talk) 13:04, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
To do it, click the source button and then try. What happened was it put <nowiki> tags around it (which basically make it ignore wikitext) because it detected wiki markup in visualeditor, which it doesn’t allow. Putting this in source: . I can’t believe I had to do that just to remove it though! AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 13:06, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

deletion request

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i wish the page Category:Trading_card_companies to be deleted.

argument : it is redundant with Category:Playing_card_manufacturers

Both have 1 element : Nintendo, though the latter is embedded within Category:Game_manufacturers and the former not, thus it can be deleted Plankton (talk) 20:39, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

deletion request

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i wish the page Category:Information_technology_companies to be deleted

argument : it serves no purpose. all items should be moved to Category:Technology_companies

please it will help tidy things up : an impossible task. Plankton (talk) 20:57, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done (about to do when first typing this) but it might take a little bit to move everything over. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 17:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

deletion request

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I wish the page Category:Canadian_Internet_Providers_-_Circumvent_CRTC_protection_-_Time_based_increases.

argument : It is a byproduct of an old spelling mistake. I've cleaned up the mess a bit. this page now needs to be deleted Plankton (talk) 21:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

actually all pages in Special:UnusedCategories Plankton (talk) 21:16, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Done partially (only removed the specific category you mentioned) but a Special:UnusedCategories cleanup will be done by me in the near future. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 17:47, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Also, you can also use the Deletionrequest template for this as although it might not be done very quickly, it is generally cleaner and easier for admins. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 17:52, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
will do. I didnt know i was allowed to use it. Plankton (talk) 18:59, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, anyone can use that to mark an article. It won't delete it, it just adds a notice for a mod to delete it (although it can be a bit slow at times!) AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 19:22, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

page categories.

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Hi i'd like some clarification regarding categories.

from what i've noticed, each page has a category with the page name as a name. ex: Apple has a Category:Apple.

Now, does that mean all other "tags" go in Category:Apple or should they go in Apple ? Or both ? (by "tags" i mean "Category:Technology_company" or "Category:Video_game")

Please clarify this as both methods are currently used through this wiki.


Thank you for your time and hard work. I want to help out more but this question needs a definitive answer before Plankton (talk) 21:31, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I’m pretty sure all tags are meant to go in the category:Apple, although some pages may have lots of categories when there’s only a few in the actual category for it (or none if there’s no category). AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 05:21, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
I’m also going to link to Consumer Rights Wiki:Categorization because of how good it is as a resource for learning about categories. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 05:27, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
thanks. i hadnt found that page. i will give it a good read Plankton (talk) 21:31, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I've added the 'nocat' parameter to Citation needed

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Just letting mods know because if you see ANY issues with the citation needed template, then please immediately rollback the edits I have made. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 18:15, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

My submission is fine and the notice is not accurate nor able to discern context of the submission

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The sources are actually threaded conversations. I'm not sure how the bot thinks a link to a threaded forum is a news article.

I worked hard making sure my first submission was encompassing.

Yes the "titles" of the forum posts sourced may not be the same as my wiki title here as those are not my posts and would you rather not put the titles of the forum posts?, i made sure to include a "why it matters" section to clarify certain aspects stated in those threads that pertain to the issue at hand. The topic INSIDE OF THE THREADS on the forum posts were exactly pertinent.

If my submission is eligible for deletion then i'm unsure how anything gets published here. I seriously think the bot that looks over submissions needs refinement if it flags my submission like that. Also, realistically a submission page with form fields is the way to go for this. Normal people are not wiki site gurus and template perfect people. They will never use the site. I understand this is outside the scope of this particular message, but I think there are some people that have a very good grasp on wiki sites, template adherence, shortcuts, that completely confusing to a normal person cite page that gets linked and overall these people are flagging posts that normal people are trying to make. The average person that comes into contact with company issues that this site proclaims to want to address will not be able to abide by the standards of a wiki style submission process if this is the outcome of when they sincerely try to contribute. (Again, it should just be form fields and a submit button.)

Nevertheless, I am posting here as directed by the robot. 66.191.58.153 09:01, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

On the off-topic remark (I do not know what your original submission was), I agree that the Visual editor UI could be a bit easier to use.
Some important "Insert" items like Citations should not be under a "More" menu (Windows 11 right click vibes); it took me about 15 minutes to find a source and add my first proper citation despite being a somewhat tech-savvy person. (Although, I started here making edits and thus did not see the Citation "tutorial" within the Create an article page, only the
There could also be a quick link(s) within the editor (like the ? button) to CRW's Wiki policy with helpful description like "Contains rules, writing guidelines and the mission statement to ensure the Wiki remains credible."
In my opinion, starting to edit wikis really feels like booting up CS 1.6 as a first timer, going on multiplayer servers and getting 20 deaths in a row for not already knowing how to wallbang. This is okay for late night LAN parties, not so motivating when people make their first contribution and get edit summaries that aren't directly constructive in their email.
Nevertheless I could be wrong on these points. I appreciate discussion and feedback. Raster (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
There are a lot of quirks with MediaWiki in general (the software is 20 years old at this point), and especially for this new wiki that has a lot of bugs and UI stuff to work out. There's supposed to be a major UI haul within the next few months or so, so hopefully that will address some of these issues you mentioned.
Ctrl+Shift+K is a keyboard shortcut for adding citations. Beanie Bo (talk) 16:56, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hi. Which article specifically are you referring to? Beanie Bo (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Spam articles

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I've checked Filter 13's log and there seems to be a consistent stream of spam articles shown there. Should we block the users doing this? I assume so, but I want to be sure. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 16:34, 22 October 2025 (UTC)Reply