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Signal is a privacy-focused, open source encrypted messaging service. In 2020, the company was accused of collecting and storing sensitive user data on their cloud database without user consent.

Background[edit | edit source]

Despite advertising that Signal can't "read your messages or listen to your calls, and no one else can either,"[1] the company has publicly disclosed that they have received legal requests for subscriber's names, telephone numbers, histories, and contacts.[2] Their website states:

"We’ve designed the Signal service to minimize the data we retain about Signal users, so the only information we can produce in response to a request like this is the date and time a user registered with Signal and the last date of a user’s connectivity to the Signal service.

Notably, things we don’t have stored include anything about a user’s contacts (such as the contacts themselves, a hash of the contacts, any other derivative contact information), anything about a user’s groups (such as how many groups a user is in, which groups a user is in, the membership lists of a user’s groups), or any records of who a user has been communicating with."[3]

Incident[edit | edit source]

In 2019, Signal previewed a feature called "secure value recovery"[4] which would allow users installing the app on a new device to retrieve data from cloud servers.[5] While the data is stored in Signal's cloud, it is stored in a securely encrypted manner.[6] The data collected and stored includes the user's name, photo, phone number, and a list of each Signal user that had been contacted.[7][disputed contact discovery on Signal is private and does not share the phone number as explained later in the cited sources - discuss] Messages are not saved, however.

Some users objected on philosophical grounds,[8][9][10][11] requesting that Signal instead provide a means to export encrypted backups that could be imported locally which would eliminate dependence on cloud-based servers. Some users also raised technical concerns about the security of the system and doubt it could satisfyingly protect their data.[12] Some of these concerns were also shared by cybersecurity experts,[13][14][15] and security researchers demonstrated that the system was vulnerable to attacks which allowed them to access the user data being stored.[16][disputed "In recent weeks, Signal has introduced more features that make it more user friendly to people who may not have extremely paranoid threat models. For example, it’s now possible to migrate all Signal data, including message history, from one phone to another, using a feature that does not rely on cloud servers and is also encrypted, according to Signal. " - discuss]

Signal's privacy policy remains unaltered from its latest version updated in 2018 and does not reflect the new cloud feature. As a consequence, consumers may not receive adequate clarification as to what data Signal collects.

Signal's response[edit | edit source]

Signal began to roll out the cloud-based recovery feature in 2020 without clear communication with the public or app users about the new feature.[17][18][19] Signal users queried the need for the PIN, and communication from the team suggested it was to ensure messages were not missed or lost by keeping messages logged in a cloud format.[20] A more detailed response from Signal following user backlash explains that cloud backups were encrypted in the same way as messages, and were safe; however, this response was not published prior to the initial rollout.[6]

It resulted in a lot of confusion for users, many of whom only learned about this feature when they were prompted to create a PIN.[21][22] [19] Years after the feature was implemented, some Signal users are still unsure what data Signal collects or they are convinced that Signal doesn't collect any data at all.[23][24]

Requests have been made for Signal to update their policy following the change in data collection.[25][26]

Alternative measures[edit | edit source]

While some social media posts and articles suggest that opting out of setting a pin would prevent a user's data from being uploaded to the cloud, this has not been proven to be the case. [27] When a user sets a pin, their data is uploaded to the cloud and secured using SVR, and when they choose to opt-out, a pin is created for them anyway and their data is uploaded to Signal's cloud. There is currently no way for a Signal user to prevent their data from being uploaded and stored in the cloud.[6]


References[edit | edit source]

  1. [signal.org "Signal Homepage"]. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)
  2. "FBI demands Signal user data, but there's not much to hand over". Archived from the original on 1 Apr 2024. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  3. "Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Eastern District of Virginia". Archived from the original on 2 Mar 2025. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  4. "Technology Preview for secure value recovery". Archived from the original on 28 Dec 2024. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  5. "Technology Preview for secure value recovery". Archived from the original on 28 Dec 2024. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 "PSA: Disabling PINs will now upload nothing to the server". Archived from the original on 16 Jun 2023. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  7. "What contact info does the Signal PIN functionality actually save". Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  8. "Don't want PIN, don't want anything stored in cloud". Archived from the original on 1 Mar 2024. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  9. "PIN, cloud storage are showstoppers".
  10. "Forced PIN, bite it Signal".
  11. "Welcome to the cloud Signal users!".
  12. "Proper secure value security: PINs are too easy to brute force, SGX is not reliable enough". Archived from the original on 1 Mar 2024. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  13. "Signal's New PIN Feature Worries Cybersecurity Experts". Archived from the original on 17 Jan 2025. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  14. "Signal Going to Cloud? A Discussion with Sean O'Brien".
  15. "Does Signal's "secure value recovery" really work?".
  16. "SGX CacheOut SGAxe attack. Signal's cloud storage and contact discovery vulnerable". Archived from the original on 19 May 2023. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  17. "Can someone explain this new PIN system?".
  18. "Mandatory PIN without clear explanation within the app might cause significant number of users to quit using Signal".
  19. 19.0 19.1 "What exactly is Signal protecting with the mandatory PIN?".
  20. "I don't understand what the new PIN requirement is for".
  21. "What contact info does the Signal PIN functionality actually save?".
  22. "Following user backlash, Signal lowers one of its drastic PIN measures".
  23. "What info does Signal store about it's user?". Archived from the original on 11 Oct 2021. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  24. "About data collection and data delivery". Archived from the original on 1 Feb 2025. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  25. "Can Signal please update its Privacy Policy". Archived from the original on 19 May 2023. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  26. "Signal's Terms of Use and Privacy Policy are not very user friendly". Archived from the original on 6 Mar 2025. Retrieved 6 Mar 2025.
  27. "A few thoughts about Signal's Secure Value Recovery".