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==Request for comment: Transcript articles==
An editor has raised a question on the need for AI generated transcripts of Louis Rossmann videos being hosted on this site. It seems these articles have been around for a while and are in the guideline pages as okay to include. I don't feel strongly about these and I wanted to ask more broadly about the need. According to [[:Category:Transcripts]] we have about 20 of them.
Here is the comment in question that prompted me asking for feedback from others: [[Talk:Insta360 camera locks you out "to protect your consumer rights" - corporate gaslighting#why does this bs exist. why do these articles exist. can we stop ? this is so annoying. who wants this ??]] (pinging @[[User:Plankton|Plankton]]) '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 01:06, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
:yeah thats me. i apologize for the strong language in my original post on the talk page of the [[Insta360 camera locks you out "to protect your consumer rights" - corporate gaslighting|article]]. I just dont feel these articles are worth anything at all. I doubt anyone would ever read them. And their existance may even turn people down from writing their own article on the subject since one (though of poor quality) already exists. I dont know why they were allowed in the first place, but i feel like they should be removed. In my opinion, they bring down the quality of the wiki. If a gouvernment representative ever looks at the wiki for info and falls onto AI bs, they might not see the wiki as a quality documentation. [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 01:24, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
::I think you're right. They served a purpose to start with, but have outlived it. I'll do a proper purge of them and anything related to them shortly, starting with deleting those ones you linked just now [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Ok - I've deleted the transcripts which were on the site. I'll start the rest of the cleanup in a bit but in the meantime feel free to point out any references to them that need to go and I can mop them all up [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 11:02, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
::::I assume [[Template:Autogenerated]] needs to go also? '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 15:00, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
==Am i allowed to make articles on legislature that is outside the US ?==
For the Legislature articles, are they only US centric ? or can I make articles on legislature from my country ? Moreover, do the sources cited need to be in english. Obviously the content of the page needs to be in english since this is an english wiki, but can the source be in other languages ? [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 22:25, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
:Consumer rights is a global issue. Yes, it is okay to include non-US issues and non-english sources, but it is preferable to find English sources. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 22:52, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
==Hello dear moderators, please delete the page FTX i created==
So, At first i thought i should make an article on what happened with FTX and so i started a page. But after some thoughts i realised that the actual article I wanted to write is on the systemic issue of cryptocurrency fraud in general, and not simply on FTX. so can you guys please delete the FTX page i made ? [[User:Plankton|Plankton]] ([[User talk:Plankton|talk]]) 05:23, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
:If you want to keep the page and just have it converted to another name, we can do that that way it still aligns with the issue you’re trying to discuss. As long as it’s systemic and works with in the editorial guidelines, it doesn’t necessarily need to be deleted. If you still do want us to remove it, please let us know. The same thing it was for if you want more help with the article just feel free to let us know. [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 11:53, 22 August 2025 (UTC)


==Deletion appeal "Presonus removes VSL...."==
==Deletion appeal "Presonus removes VSL...."==
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:The easier to deal with issue mentioned in the deletion notice surrounds the fact that the article is quite short, and is not in a standard format for a product article. This is fairly manageable, as it just needs to be reformatted into something more similar to other product articles on the wiki.
:The easier to deal with issue mentioned in the deletion notice surrounds the fact that the article is quite short, and is not in a standard format for a product article. This is fairly manageable, as it just needs to be reformatted into something more similar to other product articles on the wiki.
:The second issue is trickier: piefed's relevance to consumer protection, and general notability, needs to be justified. This is, I suspect, the main reason why it's being considered for deletion, as the other issue would only really justify a stub notice. We do not intend to have a page for every open source solution out there, and generally the only ones which have a page are very large and relevant ones like GrapheneOS (and even then there's some debate as to whether they fit on the Wiki). I'm not sure that Piefed has really has any notable consumer-related incidents to speak of, and for the page to stay I think you'd need to clearly lay out a case (ideally on its talk page, feel free to reply here or ping me if you do this) for the page's notability. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:45, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:The second issue is trickier: piefed's relevance to consumer protection, and general notability, needs to be justified. This is, I suspect, the main reason why it's being considered for deletion, as the other issue would only really justify a stub notice. We do not intend to have a page for every open source solution out there, and generally the only ones which have a page are very large and relevant ones like GrapheneOS (and even then there's some debate as to whether they fit on the Wiki). I'm not sure that Piefed has really has any notable consumer-related incidents to speak of, and for the page to stay I think you'd need to clearly lay out a case (ideally on its talk page, feel free to reply here or ping me if you do this) for the page's notability. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:45, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== "Despite" ==
It seems the word "despite" may be interpreted as inflammatory language. It's much easier to avoid it in the text/body of an article, but with an incident article, how can it be described when the incident in question is blatantly contradictory? i.e. "GoPro advertises waterproof cameras despite design flaw."
My intent is to title the incident as specific and concise as possible, which, something like "GoPro camera waterproof issue" does not do. Same with "Signal data collection" which I had re-titled to "Signal's data collection despite privacy-focused advertising." [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 18:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== dark mode on a template's broken ==
[[Template:Quote_box]] been a while since it's been broken on dark mode and I reported it on it's discussion page but it's still yet to be fixed on dark mode. In my experiences the problem's rampant on both mobile and desktop. The background of the template stays white but as it's dark mode the text turns white. Which makes the text invisible. [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 18:35, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
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