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 :@[[User:Sojourna|Sojourna]], Thanks for fixing that article. I'm keeping incomplete over stub since it's long enough to be useful, but just not complete. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 23:09, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
-== Protect Category:Wiki Root ==
+==Protect Category:Wiki Root==
 I think [[:Category:Wiki root]] and other major categories should be fully protected as confirmed/autoconfirmed users can still move it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 08:02, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
+:Thank you for posting this. If you find other categories that need to be protected, please let us know. I just went ahead and locked the main page for that category. - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 02:33, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+==Appeal Artificial intelligence deletion==
+Somebody proposed deletion of the article for the reason: "Does not pertain directly to consumer rights or violations."
+Further, in the discussion it was noted that the article is wordy.
+I agree that the article needs significant revision.  It has more detail than needed on some areas (e.g. web scraping), and totally misses other important areas.
+I think it might be easier to improve the existing article, rather than having to start one from scratch.
+I see AI more as a theme/background article.  AI is so pervasive now, and affects people in so many ways, that I think it makes sense to have at least one article on it.
+Things that I think such an article should cover include:
+Data centers - environmental impacts, community impacts, energy demand and subsidy by electricity and water rate payers, and how many of these agreements are made in secret, even in nominally democratic/open governmental systems.  In the US data centers are often located in marginalized communities, where people are not as organized to protect their community .  (This is not exclusively an AI thing might be worth a separate article about data centers in general, covering crypto mining operations, etc.)
+Control of information - Use of LLM in place of search is decimating independent information sources (taking away advertising revenue, taking away views).
+Inaccuracy and inappropriate use of LLM.  "Hallucinations"  People not understanding what an LLM is and assuming they are more capable than they are.  LLM make a poor substitute for human written product reviews.  (Inaccurate, praises whatever the user wants - even products that don't exist.)
+Intellectual property - piracy in training data (using stolen data), use of output.
+Privacy and security - data poisoning, ease of subverting guardrails, gathering data for training, revealing prompts, law enforcement review of chatbot prompts and outputs, etc.
+Concerns about possible effects on users - AI psychosis, etc.
+Labor concerns - conditions of labelers/piece workers.
+Liability - LLM are often inaccurate, what happens when the AI harms people (libel, suicide, etc.)
+In short, I think there is a lot about LLMs and AI that is important for consumers.  I hope the above gives some sense of why.  However, I only just started here, and will be careful to read the policies and examples in more detail before editing articles.
+I have sources for a bunch of this, will be adding them to the article talk page as time permits.  Thank you. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
+:Thanks for the heads up. Issue has been addressed in the Discussion page of the article. The notice has been removed [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 21:16, 4 September 2025 (UTC)