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== Move article to just Cloud? ==

==Move article to just Cloud?==

What about moving this article (Cloud (service)) to the more general Cloud heading, leaving the rest of the content basically intact?

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Issues:

* Legal protections your vs. somebody else's computer.

*Legal protections your vs. somebody else's computer.

* Recovery when lose credentials. etc.

*Recovery when lose credentials. etc.

[[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 07:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think merging cloud and self-hosted would work as they're kinda polar opposites as far as services are concerned.

:Moving to just Cloud… not sure. We might end up with a cloud computing article on here that I almost wrote by accident, covering their vendor lock-in, pricing practices (expensive outbound traffic to keep the data in), etc.; so just Cloud might end up a disambiguation page. But I suppose we can have that when we get there and until then it might do. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

==Unclear - Everything that isn't mine is cloud==

"However, a "cloud service" may refer to a data processing service provided by the manufacturer that is not based on cloud computing."

What does this mean? From a consumer's perspective, it either happens "here" (locally on my devices), or someplace else (i.e., the cloud). If this is trying to distinguish between second party servers (e.g. belonging to the company who sold me the hardware, e.g.) and third party (e.g. amazon AWS), why? What is the benefit of making this distinction for this audience? [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 07:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:It's meant to emphasize that "cloud service" doesn't necessaily imply it's based on "cloud computing" known in the software industry (which my first draft was about). The purpose is to include vendors that provide what's marketed as cloud services even without cloud computing (e. g. connecting everyone to their own server they host themselves). Probably excessive. Open to suggestions on this. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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-== Move article to just Cloud? ==
+==Move article to just Cloud?==
 What about moving this article (Cloud (service)) to the more general Cloud heading, leaving the rest of the content basically intact?
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 Issues:
-* Legal protections your vs. somebody else's computer.
+*Legal protections your vs. somebody else's computer.
-* Recovery when lose credentials.  etc.
+*Recovery when lose credentials.  etc.
 [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 07:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+:I don't think merging cloud and self-hosted would work as they're kinda polar opposites as far as services are concerned.
+:Moving to just Cloud… not sure. We might end up with a cloud computing article on here that I almost wrote by accident, covering their vendor lock-in, pricing practices (expensive outbound traffic to keep the data in), etc.; so just Cloud might end up a disambiguation page. But I suppose we can have that when we get there and until then it might do. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+==Unclear - Everything that isn't mine is cloud==
+"However, a "cloud service" may refer to a data processing service provided by the manufacturer that is not based on cloud computing."
+What does this mean?  From a consumer's perspective, it either happens "here" (locally on my devices), or someplace else (i.e., the cloud).  If this is trying to distinguish between second party servers (e.g. belonging to the company who sold me the hardware, e.g.) and third party (e.g. amazon AWS), why?  What is the benefit of making this distinction for this audience?  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 07:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+:It's meant to emphasize that "cloud service" doesn't necessaily imply it's based on "cloud computing" known in the software industry (which my first draft was about). The purpose is to include vendors that provide what's marketed as cloud services even without cloud computing (e. g. connecting everyone to their own server they host themselves). Probably excessive. Open to suggestions on this. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)