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*Recovery when lose credentials. etc.

[[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 07:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think merging cloud and self-hosted would work as they're kinda polar opposites as far as services are concerned.

:Moving to just Cloud… not sure. We might end up with a cloud computing article on here that I almost wrote by accident, covering their vendor lock-in, pricing practices (expensive outbound traffic to keep the data in), etc.; so just Cloud might end up a disambiguation page. But I suppose we can have that when we get there and until then it might do. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

==Unclear - Everything that isn't mine is cloud==

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:It's meant to emphasize that "cloud service" doesn't necessaily imply it's based on "cloud computing" known in the software industry (which my first draft was about). The purpose is to include vendors that provide what's marketed as cloud services even without cloud computing (e. g. connecting everyone to their own server they host themselves). Probably excessive. Open to suggestions on this. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] added FSF as a source in reference to vagueness of the term "cloud computing". Which was IMHO misplaced, but I took the opportunity to integrate it into the new section that explains the term in more detail and its distinction from cloud computing.

::I have to admit though that it's essentially "original research" in that it's an aggregation of my experience reading dozens, if not hundreds, product descriptions; that whole section needs more sources to assert (or refute) that we generally mean the same thing manufacturers do. Because the idea is to build a definition for a consumer that might be looking at something that says "cloud" on it. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 18:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

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 *Recovery when lose credentials.  etc.
 [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 07:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+:I don't think merging cloud and self-hosted would work as they're kinda polar opposites as far as services are concerned.
+:Moving to just Cloud… not sure. We might end up with a cloud computing article on here that I almost wrote by accident, covering their vendor lock-in, pricing practices (expensive outbound traffic to keep the data in), etc.; so just Cloud might end up a disambiguation page. But I suppose we can have that when we get there and until then it might do. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
 ==Unclear - Everything that isn't mine is cloud==
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 :It's meant to emphasize that "cloud service" doesn't necessaily imply it's based on "cloud computing" known in the software industry (which my first draft was about). The purpose is to include vendors that provide what's marketed as cloud services even without cloud computing (e. g. connecting everyone to their own server they host themselves). Probably excessive. Open to suggestions on this. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 20:18, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+::@[[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] added FSF as a source in reference to vagueness of the term "cloud computing". Which was IMHO misplaced, but I took the opportunity to integrate it into the new section that explains the term in more detail and its distinction from cloud computing.
+::I have to admit though that it's essentially "original research" in that it's an aggregation of my experience reading dozens, if not hundreds, product descriptions; that whole section needs more sources to assert (or refute) that we generally mean the same thing manufacturers do. Because the idea is to build a definition for a consumer that might be looking at something that says "cloud" on it. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 18:55, 24 March 2026 (UTC)