PlayOn Desktop discontinued: Difference between revisions
new article on mediamall ending playon desktop "lifetime license" support in october 2021 and pushing customers onto the playon home subscription. sources from techhive's reporting, the wayback-archived upgrade page, the eula and cloud tos, and the mcvetty/sirius xm precedents |
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PlayOn Desktop was a Windows application developed by MediaMall Technologies, Inc. The program loaded streaming videos in a hidden web browser and silently recorded them to the user's hard drive, producing standard MP4 files. TechHive's Jared Newman, in coverage of the discontinuation, noted that PlayOn had existed in some form for thirteen years as of October 2021 and described the desktop product as "an invaluable tool" for cord-cutters who wanted to retain access to programming after streaming subscriptions lapsed or shows moved between services.<ref name="techhive" /> | PlayOn Desktop was a Windows application developed by MediaMall Technologies, Inc. The program loaded streaming videos in a hidden web browser and silently recorded them to the user's hard drive, producing standard MP4 files. TechHive's Jared Newman, in coverage of the discontinuation, noted that PlayOn had existed in some form for thirteen years as of October 2021 and described the desktop product as "an invaluable tool" for cord-cutters who wanted to retain access to programming after streaming subscriptions lapsed or shows moved between services.<ref name="techhive" /> | ||
The PlayOn Desktop End User License Agreement, which governed all sales of the software, was a contract between the user and "MediaMall Technologies, Inc." Section 4 of the EULA | The PlayOn Desktop End User License Agreement, which governed all sales of the software, was a contract between the user and "MediaMall Technologies, Inc." Section 4 of the EULA reads: | ||
<blockquote>''MediaMall reserves the right to modify, suspend, or discontinue the Service, or any part thereof, at any time and without notice to you, and MediaMall will not be liable to you should it exercise such rights, even if your use of PlayOn or PlayLater Content is impacted by the change.''</blockquote><ref name="eula">{{Cite web |title=PlayOn End User License Agreement |url=https://www.playon.tv/eula |website=PlayOn |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> | |||
Section 5 of the EULA limited MediaMall's warranty to thirty days from the date of receipt, stating: | |||
<blockquote>''There is no warranty or condition of any kind with respect to any defects discovered after the thirty-day limited warranty period.''</blockquote><ref name="eula" /> | |||
Disputes were governed by the laws of New York and assigned to the state and federal courts of New York; the EULA contained no arbitration clause and no class action waiver.<ref name="eula" /> | |||
At the time of the discontinuation, PlayOn was sold under three plans on the official upgrade page. A Wayback Machine snapshot taken on January 26, 2021, captures the offer: a Lifetime License at $69.99 as a one-time payment, a monthly plan at $4.99, and an annual plan at $19.99.<ref name="upgrade-archive" /> The same snapshot shows a promotional banner reading "NOW 50% OFF DESKTOP LIFETIME" and "SAVE $40 NOW," indicating the lifetime tier was actively marketed to consumers in the months before development ended.<ref name="upgrade-archive" /> A separate product, PlayOn Cloud, recorded videos through MediaMall's own servers on a per-recording credit basis and was governed by a distinct Terms of Service.<ref name="techhive" /><ref name="cloud-tos">{{Cite web |title=PlayOn Cloud Terms of Service |url=https://www.playon.tv/cloud-tos |website=PlayOn |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> | At the time of the discontinuation, PlayOn was sold under three plans on the official upgrade page. A Wayback Machine snapshot taken on January 26, 2021, captures the offer: a Lifetime License at $69.99 as a one-time payment, a monthly plan at $4.99, and an annual plan at $19.99.<ref name="upgrade-archive" /> The same snapshot shows a promotional banner reading "NOW 50% OFF DESKTOP LIFETIME" and "SAVE $40 NOW," indicating the lifetime tier was actively marketed to consumers in the months before development ended.<ref name="upgrade-archive" /> A separate product, PlayOn Cloud, recorded videos through MediaMall's own servers on a per-recording credit basis and was governed by a distinct Terms of Service.<ref name="techhive" /><ref name="cloud-tos">{{Cite web |title=PlayOn Cloud Terms of Service |url=https://www.playon.tv/cloud-tos |website=PlayOn |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> | ||
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PlayOn Desktop received its final update on October 7, 2021, and was withdrawn from sale that same day.<ref name="techhive" /> In its place, MediaMall released PlayOn Home, a Windows program described by TechHive as "functionally similar to the old Desktop software" but available only on a $5 per month or $40 per year subscription.<ref name="techhive" /> The annual price represented an increase from the $19.99 annual plan that had been advertised on PlayOn's upgrade page earlier in 2021.<ref name="upgrade-archive" /><ref name="techhive" /> | PlayOn Desktop received its final update on October 7, 2021, and was withdrawn from sale that same day.<ref name="techhive" /> In its place, MediaMall released PlayOn Home, a Windows program described by TechHive as "functionally similar to the old Desktop software" but available only on a $5 per month or $40 per year subscription.<ref name="techhive" /> The annual price represented an increase from the $19.99 annual plan that had been advertised on PlayOn's upgrade page earlier in 2021.<ref name="upgrade-archive" /><ref name="techhive" /> | ||
The same week as the final desktop update, a PlayOn representative posting under the name Skip Sullivan from a @playon.tv email address explained the change in an announcement on the official PlayOn subreddit, which was then reposted by a forum participant to the SageTV community thread "PlayOn Desktop is Dead" (the SageTV mirror is the publicly archived copy). Sullivan wrote | The same week as the final desktop update, a PlayOn representative posting under the name Skip Sullivan from a @playon.tv email address explained the change in an announcement on the official PlayOn subreddit, which was then reposted by a forum participant to the SageTV community thread "PlayOn Desktop is Dead" (the SageTV mirror is the publicly archived copy). Sullivan wrote: | ||
<blockquote>''Those of you with lifetime PlayOn Desktop licenses are eligible for at least 3 free months of PlayOn Home. Should you find it not for you, you can continue to use PlayOn Desktop on Windows 10 and Window 8.1 PCs, but it will likely become less stable over time. While we won't be releasing updates for PlayOn Desktop we will still provide technical support and troubleshooting assistance.''</blockquote><ref name="sagetv">{{Cite web |date=2021-10-22 |title=PlayOn Desktop is Dead (thread reposting Skip Sullivan's PlayOn subreddit announcement) |url=https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread_t_66812.html?t=66812 |website=SageTV Community Forum |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> | |||
Sullivan's announcement identified the technical reason MediaMall gave for the change: | Sullivan's announcement identified the technical reason MediaMall gave for the change: | ||
<blockquote>''Windows 11 integrates the new chromium-based Edge browser very differently than Windows 10, which changes the way PlayOn does it's hidden browser/capture process. The Edge stuff in Windows 11 was still in flux/development in the Windows 11 betas.''</blockquote><ref name="sagetv" /> | |||
TechHive reported a parallel email statement from MediaMall's Chief Operating Officer, Tracy Burman, who said via email that Windows 11 introduces a major change in how it integrates Microsoft's Edge browser, which in turn forced the company to revamp its entire capturing process.<ref name="techhive" /> Burman further told TechHive in an email statement: | |||
<blockquote>''It was not possible to develop and maintain this new and improved version of PlayOn without some continued investment from our customers.''</blockquote><ref name="techhive" /> | |||
The transition was formalized in a November 24, 2021 post on the official PlayOn Blog titled "Welcome to PlayOn Home." The post, attributed to "Tracy's Blog," announced PlayOn Home as "our new PC-based Streaming DVR" and stated that monthly and annual Desktop subscribers would be migrated automatically.<ref name="welcome-home" /> TechHive's Jared Newman, writing in the same period, observed that "the old PlayOn desktop software will eventually become worthless as its recording capabilities degrade," because PlayOn's recording mechanism depended on continued maintenance against changes in streaming-service websites.<ref name="techhive" /> | The transition was formalized in a November 24, 2021 post on the official PlayOn Blog titled "Welcome to PlayOn Home." The post, attributed to "Tracy's Blog," announced PlayOn Home as "our new PC-based Streaming DVR" and stated that monthly and annual Desktop subscribers would be migrated automatically.<ref name="welcome-home" /> TechHive's Jared Newman, writing in the same period, observed that "the old PlayOn desktop software will eventually become worthless as its recording capabilities degrade," because PlayOn's recording mechanism depended on continued maintenance against changes in streaming-service websites.<ref name="techhive" /> | ||
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== MediaMall's response to lifetime customers == | == MediaMall's response to lifetime customers == | ||
MediaMall did not refund lifetime license holders. Instead, the November 24, 2021 | MediaMall did not refund lifetime license holders. Instead, the November 24, 2021 PlayOn Blog post offered them migration credit toward the new subscription product: | ||
<blockquote>''Existing PlayOn Desktop users with monthly and annual plans will be automatically migrated over to PlayOn Home. Users who purchased a Lifetime license to Desktop will receive a minimum of 3 months of PlayOn Home for free, and folks who purchased more recently will get even more free time on PlayOn Home. Users can see what their special PlayOn Home offer is by logging into their account.''</blockquote><ref name="welcome-home" /> | |||
After those free months, lifetime holders who wished to continue using a maintained product would have to pay $5 monthly or $40 annually.<ref name="techhive" /> | |||
MediaMall relied on the EULA's reservation clause, which had granted the company the right to discontinue the software "at any time and without notice" without liability to the user, and the thirty-day limited warranty that disclaimed responsibility for any later defects.<ref name="eula" /> Sullivan framed the company's position in the same announcement as a resource constraint: | MediaMall relied on the EULA's reservation clause, which had granted the company the right to discontinue the software "at any time and without notice" without liability to the user, and the thirty-day limited warranty that disclaimed responsibility for any later defects.<ref name="eula" /> Sullivan framed the company's position in the same announcement as a resource constraint: | ||
<blockquote>''This decision was not made lightly. PlayOn is a small company and with limited development resources and this was and is about carving out a path forward that allows us to continue cover the cost of development and to provide software and service that meet needs of our users.''</blockquote><ref name="sagetv" /> | |||
Sullivan also stated that purchasing PlayOn Home was not a forfeiture of the existing lifetime license and that the desktop software would continue to install and run on Windows 10 and Windows 8.1 systems, though without further updates.<ref name="sagetv" /> | |||
== Consumer response == | == Consumer response == | ||
TechHive reported | TechHive reported on the consumer reaction: | ||
<blockquote>''The news has not gone over well on PlayOn's Reddit page, where an announcement post now has hundreds of mostly angry comments.''</blockquote><ref name="techhive" /> | |||
The SageTV community forum thread "PlayOn Desktop is Dead," which mirrored Sullivan's PlayOn subreddit announcement, drew posts from forum participants questioning a one-time payment marketed as "lifetime" being terminated by a unilateral software-development decision.<ref name="sagetv" /> Jared Newman concluded the TechHive piece with a broader observation: | |||
<blockquote>''We should all be a little more wary of "lifetime" subscriptions from companies whose costs are ongoing; sooner or later, the bill always comes due.''</blockquote><ref name="techhive" /> | |||
As of May 2026, no class action lawsuit against MediaMall Technologies regarding the PlayOn Desktop discontinuation has been documented in published reporting on the dispute, and no consumer-protection investigation has been announced. | As of May 2026, no class action lawsuit against MediaMall Technologies regarding the PlayOn Desktop discontinuation has been documented in published reporting on the dispute, and no consumer-protection investigation has been announced. | ||
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California has since enacted statutory disclosure rules for digital-goods purchases. Assembly Bill 2426, codified at California Business and Professions Code section 17500.6, prohibits the use of words such as "buy" or "purchase" in connection with digital goods unless the consumer either receives a permanent download or provides "affirmative acknowledgment" that what is being sold is a license rather than ownership.<ref name="ab2426">{{Cite web |title=AB-2426 Consumer protection: false advertising: digital goods. |url=https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2426 |website=California Legislative Information |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> The statute took effect on January 1, 2025.<ref name="sidley-ab2426">{{Cite web |date=2024-11 |title=California's New Digital Goods Law AB 2426: What You Need to Know |url=https://www.sidley.com/en/insights/newsupdates/2024/11/californias-new-digital-goods-law-ab-2426-what-you-need-to-know |website=Sidley Austin LLP |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> The PlayOn Desktop transition predates AB 2426 by three years. | California has since enacted statutory disclosure rules for digital-goods purchases. Assembly Bill 2426, codified at California Business and Professions Code section 17500.6, prohibits the use of words such as "buy" or "purchase" in connection with digital goods unless the consumer either receives a permanent download or provides "affirmative acknowledgment" that what is being sold is a license rather than ownership.<ref name="ab2426">{{Cite web |title=AB-2426 Consumer protection: false advertising: digital goods. |url=https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB2426 |website=California Legislative Information |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> The statute took effect on January 1, 2025.<ref name="sidley-ab2426">{{Cite web |date=2024-11 |title=California's New Digital Goods Law AB 2426: What You Need to Know |url=https://www.sidley.com/en/insights/newsupdates/2024/11/californias-new-digital-goods-law-ab-2426-what-you-need-to-know |website=Sidley Austin LLP |access-date=2026-05-08}}</ref> The PlayOn Desktop transition predates AB 2426 by three years. | ||
The procedural posture of any future PlayOn Desktop dispute is shaped by an asymmetry between MediaMall's two governing agreements. The PlayOn Desktop EULA selects New York state and federal courts and contains no arbitration clause and no class action waiver.<ref name="eula" /> The PlayOn Cloud Terms of Service, by contrast, require final and binding arbitration before the American Arbitration Association under its Commercial Arbitration Rules, and prohibit class, consolidated, or representative actions: | The procedural posture of any future PlayOn Desktop dispute is shaped by an asymmetry between MediaMall's two governing agreements. The PlayOn Desktop EULA selects New York state and federal courts and contains no arbitration clause and no class action waiver.<ref name="eula" /> The PlayOn Cloud Terms of Service, by contrast, require final and binding arbitration before the American Arbitration Association under its Commercial Arbitration Rules, and prohibit class, consolidated, or representative actions. The Cloud ToS class-action waiver reads: | ||
<blockquote>''You may only resolve Disputes with MMT on an individual basis, and may not bring a claim as a plaintiff or a class member in a class, consolidated, or representative action. Class arbitrations, class actions, private attorney general actions, and consolidation with other arbitrations are prohibited under our agreement.''</blockquote><ref name="cloud-tos" /> | |||
Lifetime Desktop license holders therefore retain, in theory, access to a New York class proceeding that PlayOn Cloud customers do not.<ref name="eula" /><ref name="cloud-tos" /> | |||
== See also == | == See also == | ||