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== The CRW's current rules, and the original reasoning behind them == | ==The CRW's current rules, and the original reasoning behind them== | ||
I'll start this off by clarifying that I haven't yet formed a full opinion on an answer to the central question of the RfC, but I'm putting this here for context on the current situation, and how we got here. | I'll start this off by clarifying that I haven't yet formed a full opinion on an answer to the central question of the RfC, but I'm putting this here for context on the current situation, and how we got here. | ||
A brief overview on the current rules: | A brief overview on the current rules: | ||
* The 'Consumer Rights Wiki namespace' is protected by default, as is the main page and any sub-pages that feed into it. Superconfirmed or above is required to edit. | *The 'Consumer Rights Wiki namespace' is protected by default, as is the main page and any sub-pages that feed into it. Superconfirmed or above is required to edit. | ||
* Specific article notices cannot be removed by users below 'Superconfirmed' (the practical implication of this being that the lines on which those notices appear cannot be edited by users below Superconfirmed). | *Specific article notices cannot be removed by users below 'Superconfirmed' (the practical implication of this being that the lines on which those notices appear cannot be edited by users below Superconfirmed). | ||
* A variety of anti-spam filters are applied to edits by users who are not Confirmed. | *A variety of anti-spam filters are applied to edits by users who are not Confirmed. | ||
* Pages cannot be deleted by users below Superconfirmed | *Pages cannot be deleted by users below Superconfirmed | ||
The definitions of Moderator and Superconfirmed can be found here: [[Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Moderator_applications]]. These are the only two levels of elevated permissions which are regularly distributed. | The definitions of Moderator and Superconfirmed can be found here: [[Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Moderator_applications]]. These are the only two levels of elevated permissions which are regularly distributed. | ||
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It is also worth noting that the Wiki has very few wide-net editor restrictions in comparison to Wikipedia (over there, new users making changes from anything other than a residential IP address are blocked from editing), which is something we may want to bear in mind when assigning protection levels. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 21:38, 17 May 2026 (UTC) | It is also worth noting that the Wiki has very few wide-net editor restrictions in comparison to Wikipedia (over there, new users making changes from anything other than a residential IP address are blocked from editing), which is something we may want to bear in mind when assigning protection levels. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 21:38, 17 May 2026 (UTC) | ||
== Edit request system? == | ==Edit request system?== | ||
I've always thought it'd be great if it was super easy to make edit requests to pages (like om Wikipedia). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 06:55, 18 May 2026 (UTC) | I've always thought it'd be great if it was super easy to make edit requests to pages (like om Wikipedia). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 06:55, 18 May 2026 (UTC) | ||
:How does it work there? I've only ever done it by just writing a comment on a talk page [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 08:40, 18 May 2026 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 08:40, 18 May 2026
This page is an RfC on the topic of the protection of pages on the Wiki.
The aim is to answer the question 'Should we lower the protection requirements for articles and templates which are currently restricted and, if so, which pages or namespaces should have their protections reduced?'
This text will be updated with the editor consensus and any actions taken, once confirmed.
The CRW's current rules, and the original reasoning behind them
I'll start this off by clarifying that I haven't yet formed a full opinion on an answer to the central question of the RfC, but I'm putting this here for context on the current situation, and how we got here.
A brief overview on the current rules:
- The 'Consumer Rights Wiki namespace' is protected by default, as is the main page and any sub-pages that feed into it. Superconfirmed or above is required to edit.
- Specific article notices cannot be removed by users below 'Superconfirmed' (the practical implication of this being that the lines on which those notices appear cannot be edited by users below Superconfirmed).
- A variety of anti-spam filters are applied to edits by users who are not Confirmed.
- Pages cannot be deleted by users below Superconfirmed
The definitions of Moderator and Superconfirmed can be found here: Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Moderator_applications. These are the only two levels of elevated permissions which are regularly distributed.
Things taken into account when designing the original ruleset: Firstly, the initial system was put in place while the CRW was small, and there were very few regular editors, meaning there was substantial concern about things 'slipping through the cracks' in regularly visited places. Realistically, I'd say we're probably now in a position where we have enough regular editors to properly audit and check the new edits feed so that blatant vandalism is unlikely to slip through the cracks, and so this concern is not as relevant as it once was.
Secondly, traffic to the Wiki tends now, and even more so when it was new, to come in waves and spikes when Louis or someone similar creates a video that links to it. This means that even a fairly quickly (say, 30 minutes-1 hour) reverted piece of vandalism on the front page or similar could affect a large proportion of visitors to the site if not very quickly (<5 min) rectified.
The concern, and addition of protections, around the removal of article notices was largely put in place to avoid the spreading of misinformation or libel about companies or individuals, which is a particularly relevant concern given the nature of the wiki. We get quite a lot of new editors who really just want to let rip on a certain company or individual, and having notices which are applied to the article, but require a moderator to remove, aimed to provide an alternative to speedy article deletion for such pages and ensure a proper audit of the page by someone trusted before the notice is removed. This is also why several article notice templates (such as Cleanup or Outdated) can be removed by any user, but the ones which have a significant bearing on an article's factual quality or tone (such as the Incomplete, StubNotice, or ToneWarning templates) can be removed only by privileged users who are trusted to judge whether or not the article should be presented to readers without any caveats or warnings (that being Superconfirmed or above).
It is also worth noting that the Wiki has very few wide-net editor restrictions in comparison to Wikipedia (over there, new users making changes from anything other than a residential IP address are blocked from editing), which is something we may want to bear in mind when assigning protection levels. Keith (talk) 21:38, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Edit request system?
I've always thought it'd be great if it was super easy to make edit requests to pages (like om Wikipedia). AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 06:55, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- How does it work there? I've only ever done it by just writing a comment on a talk page Keith (talk) 08:40, 18 May 2026 (UTC)